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1. • 1: CommentAuthorwieczor
   • CommentTime14 Sep 2013 21:09

    
   Much better :) Now we can look at instruments to understand what you're actually doing :)
2. • 2: CommentAuthoremkay
   • CommentTime14 Sep 2013 22:09

    
   It would be better to have a workable Tracker to make clear working examples ;)
3. • 3: CommentAuthoremkay
   • CommentTime15 Sep 2013 21:09

    
   When editing some of the stuff above, I had an idea.
   
   
4. • 4: CommentAuthoremkay
   • CommentTime15 Sep 2013 21:09

    
   PS: The tune plays 4 channels .
5. • 5: CommentAuthoremkay
   • CommentTime16 Sep 2013 09:09

    
   Isn't it interesting?
   
   The filters do very interesting things when playing the voices "modulo" . One voice helps the other to stay in tune together. Even in higher ranges where the sound pitches rather off the note. The sound gets less flat aswell. Well, noisy in some parts, but, hey it's an old soundchip ;)
6. • 6: CommentAuthorseban
   • CommentTime16 Sep 2013 10:09

    
   Very Nice! I remember similar background synth sound in old gnome design's intro where music is made in Black Magic Composer, I will try to find it :)
7. • 7: CommentAuthoremkay
   • CommentTime16 Sep 2013 22:09

    
   The BMC demos use often 2-3 channels and a digi channel.
   This one plays real 4 different channels at one time. Well, this method is not usable for all tunes, but for special parts in several tunes for sure .
   
   
   This one uses 3 channels. basically the same technique, as the main voice plays 16 bit "bass" and the filter-voice plays modulo some additional tones. RMT doesn't support it, but I guess, we could have 3 channel 16 bit music with POKEY's generators AND a digi channel at the same time.
   
   
8. • 8:
      
     CommentAuthormiker
   • CommentTime16 Sep 2013 23:09 zmieniony

    
   @seban:
   Roller.sap in ASMA. Also hm... here it's something like this as well -> ->link<- :D
9. • 9: CommentAuthoremkay
   • CommentTime16 Sep 2013 23:09

    
   miker ,
   
   I actually like your version of plastic pop, but i don't get your point here , as your examples don't really use modulations.
10. • 10: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime17 Sep 2013 21:09

     
    Another "Dream" still is to have POKEY sounding also nice... this way:
    
    
    

    
    
    But without the direct support for the corrections...
11. • 11: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime18 Sep 2013 19:09

     
    A huge problem in Altirra is that is pushes ups and downs into the music "stream" ... here an updated version, played through the winamp library...
    
    
12. • 12: CommentAuthornodez
    • CommentTime18 Sep 2013 19:09

     
    i can rip it from real HW if you send me xex
13. • 13: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime18 Sep 2013 21:09 zmieniony

     
    Could be interesting, to have a real comparision.

    • spick.xex
14. • 14: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime18 Sep 2013 21:09

     
    A recording of this tune would be even nicer :)

    • green beret.xex
15. • 15: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime20 Sep 2013 17:09

     
    If you have checked the xex file "spick"... you may listen to the RMT sounding....
    
    get the difference...
    
    
    
    
16. • 16: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime21 Sep 2013 14:09

     
    Nomen est Omen
    
    
17. • 17: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime21 Sep 2013 21:09

     
    Hehe....
    
    This 4 channel modulation thing seems the easiest way to put MOD Files to the A8 ;)
    
    
18. • 18:
       
      CommentAuthormgr_inz_rafal
    • CommentTime21 Sep 2013 22:09

     
    Please publish .xex files also, so we can play it with real Atari.
    
    The music is great, but YouTube is not retro enough :)
19. • 19: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime22 Sep 2013 10:09 zmieniony

     
    Remember, they aren't checked on the real thing so they might sound slightly different.

    • arma.xex
    • rums.xex
20. • 20: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime23 Sep 2013 18:09 zmieniony

     
    I'm beginning to like this 4 channel stuff . IMHO the most satisfying 4ch tunes to my ears, played via POKEY style.
    
    

    
    
    still impovements possible.
21. • 21: CommentAuthornodez
    • CommentTime23 Sep 2013 21:09

     
    i tak niebardzo kumam jak w praktyce poketizowac rmt'a
22. • 22: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime24 Sep 2013 09:09

     
    High speed goonies ;)
    
    
23. • 23: CommentAuthorwieczor
    • CommentTime24 Sep 2013 10:09

     
    Goons - I like it! There's a fire! :)
24. • 24: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime24 Sep 2013 17:09

     
    This one shows again some flaws of Altirra... but worth a demonstration
    

    
    
    Btw... it's really 4 channels ....
25. • 25: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime25 Sep 2013 09:09

     
    I wonder if this "up and down" can be solved.
    
    OK... here an "Altirra" optimized version...
    
    
    
26. • 26: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime25 Sep 2013 19:09

     
    here one for comparision...
    
    

    
    
    It always seems like Altirra is slowing down the playback when deeper notes get played.... hmmm

    • race.xex
27. • 27: CommentAuthornodez
    • CommentTime25 Sep 2013 21:09

     
    i can rip it from real HW tomorow
28. • 28: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime26 Sep 2013 20:09

     
    Here a comparision how the level 1 tune sounds in RMT.
    
    
29. • 29: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime27 Sep 2013 19:09

     
    Several hours of testing and comparing later ... ;)
    
    
30. • 30: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime28 Sep 2013 15:09

     
    This one sounds almost similar in RMT and Altirra. But definetly Altirra uses a different base frequency.
    
    
    
31. • 31: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime30 Sep 2013 14:09

     
    4channel 50Hz.
    
    
32. • 32: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime30 Sep 2013 16:09 zmieniony

     
    btw: thnx to miker for the main conversions...
    
    
    You remember many Amiga tunes use a "bizarre" chord on the 4th channel....
    So , I again had an idea ;)
    
    
    

    
    
    
    4channel 50Hz PAULkey edit ;)
33. • 33:
       
      CommentAuthorxeen
    • CommentTime30 Sep 2013 23:09

     
    nice one, I like it.
34. • 34: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime3 Oct 2013 12:10

     
    Still 4ch 50Hz...
    I like Pizzicatos :D
    
    
    
35. • 35: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime3 Oct 2013 16:10 zmieniony

     
    And XEX of the latest one ...

    • ast.xex
36. • 36: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime3 Oct 2013 18:10

     
    Any suggestion for a 4 channel modulated Amiga MOD ?
37. • 37: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime6 Oct 2013 09:10

     
    Keep in Mind, it's 4 channel
    
    

    
    
    The limits of RMT were reached when changing AUDCTL on the fly. It's simply not possible, ecxept you make an instrument for every variation.
38. • 38: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime6 Oct 2013 14:10 zmieniony

     
    This is a part of the mix....
    
    The original must be a tune by Rob Hubbard ....
    I wonder what's the name ...
    
    

    • question.xex
39. • 39: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime7 Oct 2013 21:10

     
    This shows more the possibility of having
    a better control than "4 bits" of the volume, if the timing is used to control the cancelling point of the filter voice...
    
    
    
40. • 40: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime7 Oct 2013 22:10

     
    Still the question... in a different setting....
    
    
    
41. • 41: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime9 Oct 2013 09:10 zmieniony

     
    What about some beep ...
    
    
    
42. • 42: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime10 Oct 2013 17:10

     
    The goal in this one was to have the notes as high as possible and without clicking noise.
    
    
43. • 43: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime10 Oct 2013 22:10

     
    Did you realize the "non" yelling sounding of that high notes , and they are using different waveforms on the fly?
44. • 44: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime11 Oct 2013 18:10

     
    Update.... to show the variations more clear.
    
    
    

    
    
    
    Well.... imagine a tracker that is able to handle the "wave-creating" more precisely and offers a channel for a softsynth....
45. • 45: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime12 Oct 2013 19:10

     
    And a 3rd version. Different waveform and some portamento and vibrato added....
    
    
46. • 46: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime15 Oct 2013 08:10

     
    This one sounds rather genious.
    High notes with altering waves fit well to the tune.
    
    
    
    
    
47. • 47: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime15 Oct 2013 18:10

     
    hmmm.... some "Bad Cat like" basedrum ;)
    
    
    
48. • 48: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime16 Oct 2013 10:10

     
    This one would be my personal preference, but due to the differences in RMT, you tickle the sounds until everything is fine, the other emulation has different "specifications" ....
    
    
49. • 49: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime17 Oct 2013 19:10

     
    Special POKEY RMT Altirra Edit ;)
    
    
50. • 50: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime19 Oct 2013 22:10

     
    
    
    Interesting how the waveforms do their part on what the sound produces at all....