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    Which of you had and with lucky still have one of these with an A8?
    Reason was that I one (green phospor colours though also, I think, were black&white ones more popular on my friends ZXs/Timex computers). Mine hadn't even sound but some had as I remember from a frien that had one with his TC2068.
    Together with the 800XL and tape recorder my parents also bought the monitor. The reason was that here old and not so old people back then believe that computers things moving and blinking would 'hurt' tv's displays. I had to wait they're in bed to use the rf cable on the tv though only sound as it was a black&white Grundig tv (only 3 or 4years later I take my 800XL to a friend neighourhood and saw colours on the tv. Remember we passed almost all Night playing Alley Cat that he was amazed as he had a copy of it on his PC cga so he couldn't believe in all those colours :grin:!...). Later I had the luck to find an old amplifier and a box sound that I did a 2wires (ground and sound) cable to have some noises (very bad quality though ;)).

    So only lately with web (I think it started here on AtariOnline) that then I went to read on Wikipedia):
    Timex Sinclair was a joint venture between the British company Sinclair Research and Timex Corporation in an effort to gain an entry into the rapidly growing early-1980s home computer market in North America. The choice of partnership was natural, as Timex was already the main contractor for manufacture of Sinclair's ZX81 and ZX Spectrum computers at its Scottish plant in Dundee. It was Timex of Portugal, though, that took on the R&D and the local manufacturing of the models to be exported to the U.S. Although both Timex of Scotland and Timex of Portugal were full subsidiaries of Timex, internal rivalry, whether unintended or purported, meant there was little sharing between the two plants.[citation needed] Timex of Portugal also sold the Timex Sinclair models in Portugal and Poland under the Timex Computer brand.

    1 Products
    2 Peripherals
    3 Software
    4 References
    5 External links
    Timex Sinclair released four computers, all of them based (to some extent) on Sinclair Research's existing machines. In chronological order:
    TS1000, essentially a modified ZX81 with 2 KB RAM
    TS1500, a TS 1000 with 16 KiB RAM and a ZX Spectrum-like case and keyboard
    TS2068, a ZX Spectrum-based machine with enhancements, namely a cartridge port to make it compete with videogame consoles, which resulted in poor compatibility with software developed for the original. Its European sibling, the TC2068, featured improved compatibility with the ZX Spectrum.
    TC2048, a ZX Spectrum-based machine with a TS 2068-like keyboard. Not sold in the US.
    The Timex Sinclair 1000 was introduced in July 1982, with Timex Sinclair touting it as the first home computer to cost under $100 in the U.S. market. In spite of the flaws in the early versions, half a million units were sold in the first six months alone. Overall, the machines were nowhere near as successful as their UK progenitors; in contrast with the ZX Spectrum, which was the best-selling computer in Britain at the time, the TS2068 was a relative failure, due to Timex leaving the computer business prior to the introduction of the TS2068 (and TS 1500).

    Timex Corporation withdrew from the U.S. home computer market in February 1984 but Timex of Portugal continued to manufacture, sell and develop hardware in Portugal and Poland for another ten years.

    TC3256 was the next proposed computer. It was designed as the third generation of Timex Computer Technology, but it vanished when Timex of Portugal shut down its production line.[1]
    Timex FDD or FDD 3000, a Z80-based CP/M-compatible computer. Most people only know it as a floppy disk drive controller but in fact, it is a computer without graphics circuitry. The FDD or FDD 3000 could be used in three different ways:
    as a disk drive controller for a TC2048/2068 or ZX Spectrum, running TOS (Timex Operating System)
    as a CP/M system, using a TC2048/2068 computer running the Timex Terminal Emulator as a console.
    as a CP/M system, using the Timex Terminal 3000, a terminal keyboard, as a console.
    Timex Sinclair produced the following peripherals for the Timex computer line:

    TS1016 - Timex 16K RAM Pack for use on a TS1000. Can be used on a TS1500.
    TS1050 - Not a real peripheral, but a "suitcase" to carry TS1000, tapes and peripherals
    TS1510 - A cartridge player for TS1500. It can be used on TS1000 with a 16K RAM Pack
    TS2020 - Analog Tape Recorder
    TS2040 - Thermal Printer
    TP2040 - Thermal Printer (badging variation, with "Printer" instead of "Sinclair")
    TS2050 - Communications Modem
    TS2060 - Bus Expansion Unit (vaporware)
    TS2065 - Timex Microdrives (vaporware)
    TS2080 - 80 column dot matrix printer (vaporware)
    TS2090 - Joystick to be used on TS2068 internal ports
    Timex Computer (TMX Portugal) produced the following peripherals for the Timex computer line:

    TS1040 - A multi-voltage power supply (printer + tape recorder (TS2020) + TS1000 + TC2048/2068)
    TC2010 - A digital tape recorder
    TC2080 - A serial 80 column dot matrix printer
    Timex FDD - A "cut down" computer that can be used as a floppy disk controller
    Timex FDD3000 - A "cut down"computer that can be used as a floppy disk controller (an upgraded Timex FDD)
    Timex Terminal 3000 - A "cut down"computer to be used as a CP/M terminal with FDD3000
    Timex RS232 - A serial RS232 interface
    Sound/Joystick Unit - A sound amplifier for SLCD sounds and Kempson(?) Joystick Interface

    Neptun 156 monitor. It came in matching black or grey colours.
    TMX Portugal also sold the TS2040 and later renamed it to Timex Printer 2040.

    To export the Timex Computer to Poland (as the Unipolbrit UK2086), Timex of Portugal had to be paid in goods. It chose to import the Neptun 156 12" green monochrome monitor, manufactured in Poland by Unimor company. Based on the Vela TV receiver, it proved very popular in Portugal and was frequently sold in bundles with the TC computers.

    TMX Portugal sold/developed the following software:

    TOS - Operating system for the FDD/FDD3000 known as Timex Operating System
    CP/M for FDD3000 - Advanced operating system for the FDD3000
    Basic 64 - Basic extensions for the extra video modes
    Timeword - A word processor in cartridge that can save to TOS disks or to a tape recorder
    "Timex Computer 3256 - Portugal".
    External links
    TIMEXsinclair Showcase
    Sinclair computers, derivatives, and clones
    Sinclair Research / Science of Cambridge
    MK14ZX80ZX81ZX Spectrum (ZX Spectrum+, ZX Spectrum 128)QL
    ZX Spectrum +2ZX Spectrum +3
    Licenced systems
    ZX Spectrum VegaZX Spectrum Vega+
    Timex Corporation
    TS 1000TS 1500TS 2068TC 2048Komputer 2086TC 3256
    Cambridge Computer
    ZX80/81 clonesZX Spectrum clonesQL clones
    Compatible or related systems
    ATMMicroAceJupiter AceSAM CoupéDidaktikDubna 48KHobbitPentagonScorpionSprinterOne Per DeskCST ThorQ40/Q60MicroDigital TK82CMicroDigital TK85MicroDigital TK90XMicroDigital TK95ZX Spectrum Next
    Sinclair Research peripherals
    ZX PrinterZX Interface 1ZX Interface 2ZX Microdrive
    Timex peripherals
    TS2040 PrinterNeptun 156 MonitorTS2050 ModemFDD Disk DriveFDD3000 Disk Drive
    Categories: Home computer hardware companiesComputer companies of the United StatesSinclair ResearchTimex Group

    What I'm curious is to see (don't fing any on Google Images) images of Atari games, programs,... on these monitors.
    Also to know what they display in pixels? I had arkanoid that is using 232scanlines and it showed all (think that not the last not used 8 at the bottom not) but what about horizontally, did they show how much more than the 320pixels/40Bytes wide mode?
    Found some images (even from 7800) but still don't get what maximum it can display.
    C64 example shows large borders but is known that C64's pixels are smaller than A8 ones.
    The A8 shows and example of Fred but difficult to get as horizontally the game is in Narrow mode 32Bytes/characters and also not many used vertically but here I had and said that Arkanoid shows all the scanlines and from the picture is proved). Horizontallu seems it can get 6more each side so probably around 44Bytes/chars is possible to see horizontally.
    The Pac-Man example I can't get nothing from it...
    All these ones are in white plastic that I never seen around here, they were all in black colour.
    • 3: CommentAuthorpirx
    • CommentTime15 Apr 2021 zmieniony
    i had one and even have a couple of photos, not very clear though