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1. • 1:
      
     CommentAuthormav
   • CommentTime16 Mar 2021 21:03

    
   Sounds more like benchmark, not actually music
2. • 2: CommentAuthoremkay
   • CommentTime21 Mar 2021 20:03 zmieniony

    
   How about this one?
   
   
   
   

   
   
   Some GM instruments
3. • 3: CommentAuthorrosomak
   • CommentTime21 Mar 2021 22:03

    
   Its really nice to 51 sec.
4. • 4: CommentAuthoremkay
   • CommentTime22 Mar 2021 05:03

    
   @rosomak.
   Thw whole tune is nice ;). Particular the main Instrument sounds correct.
   It's just that the 1st part is nicer than expected.
   Remember that the tune on the SID isn't really nice by the used style. It is designed to sound like "Rock", not "Classical Music".
   Keep in mind that we don't have a Tracker that is supporting this directly. Editing while playing the tune would allow even more fine adjustments.
   The LZSS Player makes demonstrations of the possibilities sharper.
5. • 5:
      
     CommentAuthorJacques
   • CommentTime22 Mar 2021 08:03 zmieniony

    

   rosomak:

   Its really nice to 51 sec.

   
   I totally agree.
   
   

   emkay:

   Thw whole tune is nice ;). Particular the main Instrument sounds correct.
   It's just that the 1st part is nicer than expected.

   
   
   I don't know if it's in good tune to reply "whole is nice", when being an author - by definition subjective to his creation ;-)
   For me, percussion that enters at 51 secs destroys what was already built up, and later it intensifies even more and is stealing all foreground.
   There must be a way to achieve something better than that with percussion?
6. • 6: CommentAuthorpavros
   • CommentTime22 Mar 2021 23:03

    
   @emkay
   It's a masterpiece. Well done!
   Pls share it. :)
   
   @Jacques
   emkay is not an author of this music. I believe he's referring to the original when smiling.
7. • 7: CommentAuthoremkay
   • CommentTime23 Mar 2021 21:03

    
   Hm... here are two additional different versions.
   
   
   

   
   
   
   and a more "PWM" version with more arpeggios, like the sid original
   
   
   
   
   

   
   
   
   Imagine what could be possible with a POKEY supporting Tracker using all this stuff directly.
8. • 8: CommentAuthoremkay
   • CommentTime23 Mar 2021 21:03

    
   Btw. The 64kHz Versions were detected "Original" by Youtube.
9. • 9: CommentAuthoremkay
   • CommentTime26 Mar 2021 20:03

    
   1st of them with changed drums .
   
   
10. • 10: CommentAuthorrosomak
    • CommentTime27 Mar 2021 05:03

     
    Emkay, co to za perkusja??? Gorzej się nie dało?
11. • 11: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime27 Mar 2021 09:03

     
    rosomak
    there are two drums.
    How about showing me your taste of "drums" , so might get what you like and what not.
12. • 12: CommentAuthorgorgh
    • CommentTime27 Mar 2021 11:03

     
    latest song is quite nice emkay
    also: 512 post in this thread :)
13. • 13: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime27 Mar 2021 12:03

     
    That's the unsolvable part, when editing music .
    It is not possible to create one tune that fits to the taste of all.
14. • 14: CommentAuthorrosomak
    • CommentTime27 Mar 2021 14:03

     
    Emkay, poszukam, póki co wrzucę tylko to
15. • 15: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime27 Mar 2021 17:03

     
    rosomak
    is this a funny joke?
    You know that your tune is digitized ?
16. • 16: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime27 Mar 2021 17:03

     
    And here some other tune with new "programmed" sounds.
    
    Pulse Width Ring Mod Wiz
    
17. • 17: CommentAuthorrosomak
    • CommentTime27 Mar 2021 18:03

     
    Emkay, napisałem że poszukam a wrzucilem to jako przykład fajnej muzy Jakuba
18. • 18: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime28 Mar 2021 09:03 zmieniony

     
    Here a visualisation of the main thing of the last tune.
    It's actually building waves on a combination of Ring Modulation and Pulse Width Modulation.
    And, as you might see, it is fully controllable.
    
    
19. • 19: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime1 Apr 2021 21:04 zmieniony

     
    How about some 4 channel harmonics?
    
    
    
    
20. • 20: CommentAuthorpin
    • CommentTime1 Apr 2021 22:04

     
    ... ale kakofony. To by było nawet dobre, nie wiem tylko ile zioła do tego potrzeba zapalić :))
21. • 21: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime1 Apr 2021 22:04

     
    pin
    It's easy to have it not sounding like "cacophony.
    Just don't comsume those herbs ;)
22. • 22: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime1 Apr 2021 23:04

     
    Also, what is this?
    The development of POKEY music has done a "quantum leap" in the past year. The response is quite low.
    But it costs a lot time to use RMT to get things done.
    So, even if the results were impressive, things could be even a lot better, if a tracker existed, to set all sounds directly.
    
    But all, you get is someone posting "cacophony" just by the taste of music, not judging on the real specs.
23. • 23:
       
      CommentAuthorpirx
    • CommentTime2 Apr 2021 05:04

     
    i must say that first emkay tunes sounded really horrible to me, but after these tens of years when I heard this last piece it felt familiar and not that bad. acquired taste I guess :)))))))))))))
24. • 24: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime2 Apr 2021 06:04 zmieniony

     
    pirx
    
    It is a sum of "all"
    
    I'm not a "professional" musician, so I had to learn things.
    There is still the taste who makes a tune "like" or not "like".
    Then there has been some software correction by time.
    -Pokey emulation upgrade
    -notation table correction. (Did you notice the correct 440Hz
    tuning? )
    -The LZSS player solves a lot bugs of RMT.
    (filter setting skipping, timing problems, false pitch...)
    But inside the RMT Editor you still have to fight with the
    errors. This means,you have to change something, save it, use
    the LZSS compressor, start Altirra, listen to the tune till the
    part of changing. If it is not good, start with changing
    something in RMT...
    
    So, what you hear in the LZSS player and played in Altirra, is 95% correct to the real thing.
    It's worth the hassle :)
25. • 25: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime3 Apr 2021 14:04 zmieniony

     
    Things would be so easy to reach with a supporting tracker for all this feautures. Particular fine tuning on dedicated positions of the tune.
    
    

    
    
    Playing a little with "low pass" features and morphing sounds
26. • 26: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime3 Apr 2021 22:04

     
    Really!
    Imagine, what could be , if a really POKEY supporting Tracker existed.
    
    
27. • 27: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime11 Apr 2021 02:04

     
    Interesting part here is the "growing" on old projects, just by the better software that is getting available.
    You might know that I did a "gazillion" test tunes in the past. So, even if it is a tremendously complex task to get things done running clean in the LZSS player, things look "quickly" .
    
    Here are some more new results:
    
    
    
    

    
    
    
    

    
    
    
    

    
    
    
    

    
    
    
    
    
    Still: Imagine what could be done with a real supporting software for all this.
28. • 28: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime11 Apr 2021 22:04

     
    Or, how about this style?
    
    
    
    
29. • 29: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime13 Apr 2021 22:04

     
    Do you like music?
    This tune originally done by Rob Hubbard was build upon the SID's strength.
    
    Sorry to say that, but this "snippet" is equal on the POKEY. Even if still the available software is the limiting factor.
    
    
    
30. • 30:
       
      CommentAuthorcrrn
    • CommentTime13 Apr 2021 22:04

     
    masakra
    XD
31. • 31: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime13 Apr 2021 22:04

     
    crm
    
    only if you don't like music.
32. • 32:
       
      CommentAuthorCyprian
    • CommentTime13 Apr 2021 22:04

     
    @emkay this time that doesn't work,
    a melody sounds a quite ok, the rest is out of tune, out of beat..
33. • 33: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime2 May 2021 23:05 zmieniony

     
    The problem still is the methods to reach just normal levels by cruising around the software restrictions.
    
    In this tune, the "Bass" resolution is 3 times better than the 8 bit resolution.
    
    The problem here is that LZSS optimizes all RMT feaures, but RMT denies all 16 bit optimizations by just not supporting them.
    
    
34. • 34: CommentAuthorrosomak
    • CommentTime3 May 2021 00:05

     
    Sounds nice
35. • 35: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime6 May 2021 21:05

     
    How about this one?
    
    POKEY "standard programming" using the available development tools.
    
    
    
36. • 36:
       
      CommentAuthorsun
    • CommentTime7 May 2021 15:05

     
    jednak oryginał brzmi lepiej :)
37. • 37: CommentAuthorrosomak
    • CommentTime8 May 2021 06:05

     
    A ja myślę, że emkay nie chce wiedzieć co o tym myślę, natomiast znajomość ze słoniem mu nie służy ;-)
38. • 38: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime11 May 2021 22:05 zmieniony

     
    some merged tunes..
    
    
39. • 39: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime13 May 2021 21:05

     
    Checked this?
40. • 40:
       
      CommentAuthorcrrn
    • CommentTime13 May 2021 21:05 zmieniony

     
    yup.... and people, like myself are speechless I guess
41. • 41: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime13 May 2021 21:05

     
    @crrn
    
    If it only was possible to set the sounds while listening to the tune. Things will be much better.
42. • 42:
       
      CommentAuthorcrrn
    • CommentTime13 May 2021 21:05 zmieniony

     
    If it only was possible to set the sounds while COMPOSING the tune. Things will be much better.
43. • 43: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime13 May 2021 22:05

     
    crrn
    
    no.
    
    You have to listen to every change while it is played.
    For now it is a "blind audition" to edit the tunes to have them correctly played in the lzss player.
44. • 44: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime18 May 2021 22:05

     
    How about some special version of...?
    
    
45. • 45:
       
      CommentAuthorAlex
    • CommentTime18 May 2021 22:05

     
    Autotune would be worth a fortune here ;)
46. • 46: CommentAuthormono
    • CommentTime18 May 2021 22:05

     
    Only bumblebees :) Nice.
47. • 47: CommentAuthorrosomak
    • CommentTime19 May 2021 05:05

     
    To powinno być w kategorii ciekawostki
48. • 48: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime19 May 2021 08:05

     
    @Alex yeah. It's perfect SID tuning.
    Only the start needs an update, since RMT and LZSSplayer were too different for fine tuning.
49. • 49: CommentAuthoremkay
    • CommentTime22 May 2021 10:05

     
    Here another 15kHz edit.
    This time some special feature is included, POKEY doesn't have ;)
    
    
    
    
50. • 50: CommentAuthorgorgh
    • CommentTime22 May 2021 11:05 zmieniony

     
    bardzo fajne emkay
    mógłbyś udostępnić xex?